Should I dump my 2019 and get a 2022?

[johnitahoe]

I love the Ranger! I'm 6'5" and it's tough to find a vehicle I fit in that isn't the size of a school bus.

I do not like the Ranger 6g redesign. The hood appears longer and flatter with less visibility. Perhaps they are trying to be more Tacoma like!

For maintenance, I've just done oil changes, brakes, and the repair actions below.

So far I've had the external brake light issue, that was fixed at the dealer before I bought it and...

Transmission problems.

My transmission was rebuilt by the dealer at 59,999 miles, the drum had slipped and it was slipping in the lower gears plus other serious shifting issues.

Since then I've driven 10,000 miles which seemed good but once again it seems the vehicle is not shifting correctly. When driving 20-35 mph it feels like the transmission needs to shift to a lower gear or the truck needs more power. Laboring on a small incline at those speeds. Also a noticeable connect and disconnect from the driveline at highway speeds when I accelerate and when I remove my foot from the accelerator. I've got an appointment to take it back to the dealer in two weeks.

I do have the 8 year, 125k warranty which expires in December 2027.

Here are consumer reports reliability numbers for the Ranger Model Years.
2025 65
2022 75
2021 34
2020 36
2019 37

Mid size truck reliability across the board is not very good.

Of course keeping in mind that the 2019 Ranger was a top reliability pick in 2019 before the issues popped up and consumer reports dropped its rating.

Do you think most the Ranger issues were corrected in the 2022 model year?

At 70,000 miles, other than the transmission problems, what other gremlins might I expect?

Until now I usually keep my vehicles for 20 years. Last new vehicle was a 1998 Ford Expedition.

Thanks,
Jake

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[Joeiconic]

What do the numbers beside the years represent?

 

[5thranger]

What do the numbers beside the years represent?

Reliability number ranking

 

[alcohenusa]

I love the Ranger! I'm 6'5" and it's tough to find a vehicle I fit in that isn't the size of a school bus.

I do not like the Ranger 6g redesign. The hood appears longer and flatter with less visibility. Perhaps they are trying to be more Tacoma like!

For maintenance, I've just done oil changes, brakes, and the repair actions below.

So far I've had the external brake light issue, that was fixed at the dealer before I bought it and...

Transmission problems.

My transmission was rebuilt by the dealer at 59,999 miles, the drum had slipped and it was slipping in the lower gears plus other serious shifting issues.

Since then I've driven 10,000 miles which seemed good but once again it seems the vehicle is not shifting correctly. When driving 20-35 mph it feels like the transmission needs to shift to a lower gear or the truck needs more power. Laboring on a small incline at those speeds. Also a noticeable connect and disconnect from the driveline at highway speeds when I accelerate and when I remove my foot from the accelerator. I've got an appointment to take it back to the dealer in two weeks.

I do have the 8 year, 125k warranty which expires in December 2027.

Here are consumer reports reliability numbers for the Ranger Model Years.
2025 65
2022 75
2021 34
2020 36
2019 37

Mid size truck reliability across the board is not very good.

Of course keeping in mind that the 2019 Ranger was a top reliability pick in 2019 before the issues popped up and consumer reports dropped its rating.

Do you think most the Ranger issues were corrected in the 2022 model year?

At 70,000 miles, other than the transmission problems, what other gremlins might I expect?

Until now I usually keep my vehicles for 20 years. Last new vehicle was a 1998 Ford Expedition.

Thanks,
Jake

If you want a 2022, then be sure it was built on 8/16/22 or later. That is when they started using the transmission with the updated CDF drum.

 

[Blmpkn]

If you want a 2022, then be sure it was built on 8/16/22 or later. That is when they started using the transmission with the updated CDF drum.

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[subquark]

If you want a 2022, then be sure it was built on 8/16/22 or later. That is when they started using the transmission with the updated CDF drum.

Great tip!

Also keep in mind that the '22 will have deleted items compared to your '19 (hood weatherstripping & bumpers, hood struts, tie downs, engine cover, etc).

But if you can get one with the latest tranny, sounds like you'd be more comfortable with it.

But it would be a tough decision for me, I also keep cars until they're worn out ...

 

[Joeiconic]

Reliability number ranking

it’s my understanding that consumer report‘s ratings are mostly, or entirely, based on their subscriber feedback, as opposed to empirical data, so I would take their ranking with a grain of salt. If you look at Kelly Blue Book, Edmunds, JD Power, etc., used 5g Rangers have good reviews.

 

[Blmpkn]

it’s my understanding that consumer report‘s ratings are mostly, or entirely, based on their subscriber feedback, as opposed to empirical data, so I would take their ranking with a grain of salt. If you look at Kelly Blue Book, Edmunds, JD Power, etc., used 5g Rangers have good reviews.

Awhile back CR admitted that some of their reviews were completely bogus.

It all came about thanks to a model or two from Toyota... The publication gave the vehicle top marks and then it ended up being toyotas like.. most recalled model.

After a bunch of whining and complaints from their subscribers who got burnt after buying said vehicle they went on the record to apologize and said that from there on out that they'd actually test vehicles before passing judgement.

Fuck consumer reports. Id be curious to see how much money different manufacturers line their pockets with..

 

[Dereku]

Dunno my 21 got a new transmission last year and now its great. Im at 99k now. I dont see a point in getting newer version of the same. You want long term? And I say this with complete honesty, get an F150 with the coyote and the 6 speed used. Will last forever. Modern enough and reliable. Our trucks will not go 250k. But I will try.

 

[philanderer]

If you want a 2022, then be sure it was built on 8/16/22 or later. That is when they started using the transmission with the updated CDF drum.

my 22 was built sept 22. 17k and no tranny issues. (well, other than the ones in my social life). i do have the unleashed smooth shift tune, so i am hoping that is contributing to my happiness with the transmission thus far

 

[dannyboy12]

John,
Have you looked into your EGR vacuum control valve as a possible culprit for uneven power application? Here's a thread for the (easy) replacement and a link to the "bucking/surging epidemic" thread: https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/thre...mbly-replacement-write-up-lb5z-9j433-b.29247/
--Dan

 

[johnitahoe]

it’s my understanding that consumer report‘s ratings are mostly, or entirely, based on their subscriber feedback, as opposed to empirical data, so I would take their ranking with a grain of salt. If you look at Kelly Blue Book, Edmunds, JD Power, etc., used 5g Rangers have good reviews.

Great tip! I'll take a look at some of those!

 

[johnitahoe]

Awhile back CR admitted that some of their reviews were completely bogus.

It all came about thanks to a model or two from Toyota... The publication gave the vehicle top marks and then it ended up being toyotas like.. most recalled model.

After a bunch of whining and complaints from their subscribers who got burnt after buying said vehicle they went on the record to apologize and said that from there on out that they'd actually test vehicles before passing judgement.

Fuck consumer reports. Id be curious to see how much money different manufacturers line their pockets with..

Consumer reports rated the 2019 Ranger very high. That's one reason I bought it. Then the next year they dropped the ratings down low.

 

[johnitahoe]

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Cool. Maybe I got the updated drum when they rebuilt mine in January 2023!

 

[johnitahoe]

John,
Have you looked into your EGR vacuum control valve as a possible culprit for uneven power application? Here's a thread for the (easy) replacement and a link to the "bucking/surging epidemic" thread: https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/thre...mbly-replacement-write-up-lb5z-9j433-b.29247/
--Dan

I mentioned that to the dealer and they said since I have an extended warranty to let them troubleshoot rather than just start replacing parts. If they troubleshoot and replace, the cost is on them. If I do it, the cost is on me. That said...I'm still going to order up the part and have it available at the dealer and try to talk them into replacing it. I wonder if the DPFE failures contribute the demise of these transmissions. I'm also gonna run some higher octane fuel to see if that has any effect. I run 87 octane, perhaps if I run 91 or 93 it won't strain the transmission as much on those 100 degree days and going up hills.

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