Icon 2.5 Extended Travel VS King 2.5 OEM Extended Travel

[gryder]

If anyone is wondering, for reference

King 6” coilover - 14” compression- 20”extended.
King 8” coilover - 16”compression- 24”extended

stock Fx4 extended 20”

I think the 8” coilovers will fit running the Bajakits.

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[Superdannyboy]

If anyone is wondering, for reference

King 6” coilover - 14” compression- 20”extended.
King 8” coilover - 16”compression- 24”extended

stock Fx4 extended 20”

I think the 8” coilovers will fit running the Bajakits.

The bajakits runs the same lower mount location as the stock arm. I'm starting my project next month at school I get to use the machine shop I want to machine my upper arms out of aluminum and fab up lower arms that are either +4 or +5 and run a king 10" stroke shock.

 

[gryder]

The bajakits runs the same lower mount location as the stock arm. I'm starting my project next month at school I get to use the machine shop I want to machine my upper arms out of aluminum and fab up lower arms that are either +4 or +5 and run a king 10" stroke shock.

That’s going to be really nice with a 10” shock and you get to run a dual rate spring. It’s going to be really smooth! Can’t wait to see the finished project.

 

[Superdannyboy]

That’s going to be really nice with a 10” shock and you get to run a dual rate spring. It’s going to be really smooth! Can’t wait to see the finished project.

Yea I've been reading a lot of forums about coilover tuning and I'm going to see how good I can tune them because I don't want to buy bypasses shocks on every corner in addition to the coilovers. The rear I'm doing a 2.5x18 on trailing arms so I'll create a thread asking how to put the stock gas tank internals in a fuel cell. The project will take a year since it's at school this fall semester will be design (suspension and cage) and next spring will be the fab. I'll probably be on dezertrangers asking those guys for advice I'm superdannyboy on there too.

Tuning is so crazy I always ran my rear shocks with the compression open because I figured it's a pickup but with my 2 spares in the rear of the bed when I closed the compression in the rear man it felt so much more planted. I can't wait to feel the difference once I get my kings between digressive pistons and progressive pistons.

 

[Superdannyboy]

If anyone is wondering, for reference

King 6” coilover - 14” compression- 20”extended.
King 8” coilover - 16”compression- 24”extended

stock Fx4 extended 20”

I think the 8” coilovers will fit running the Bajakits.

I measured 16" at full bump and 22" at full droop with the bajakits.

Edit: this is the distance from the coil bucket to the lower shock mount

 

[Sgt_Gr8Haus]

Have my adjustable king extended travel coil overs in the mail!!! So stoked to have found a pair!!!

 

[Whiplash]

I have the ICON 2.5 ET CDCV RR coil overs with APG billet UCA's and APG billet tie rod ends to make full use of the extra travel without binding. And ICON 2.5 CDCV rear piggybacks with the ICON WTX progressive leaf spring
and bump stops .

After about 9 months of on and 300+ miles of offroad experience , I have played around with the damping enough to find what works and feels the best for me.

For street and low speed trails I like the front valve setting at 2 / rears set to 4 . Good damping and flat corner handling...for open desert whoops , washboard , and sandy moguls I have wicked the settings up to 8 front and rear for speeds up to 65 mph.

I originally wanted the King 2.5 , but "settled" for the ICON's due to availability...pleased to say the ICON's have exceeded my expectations and feel I did not sacrifice any performance going with ICON's in my
Mid-Runner set up....?

 

[Superdannyboy]

I have the ICON 2.5 ET CDCV RR coil overs with APG billet UCA's and APG billet tie rod ends to make full use of the extra travel without binding. And ICON 2.5 CDCV rear piggybacks with the ICON WTX progressive leaf spring
and bump stops .

After about 9 months of on and 300+ miles of offroad experience , I have played around with the damping enough to find what works and feels the best for me.

For street and low speed trails I like the front valve setting at 2 / rears set to 4 . Good damping and flat corner handling...for open desert whoops , washboard , and sandy moguls I have wicked the settings up to 8 front and rear for speeds up to 65 mph.

I originally wanted the King 2.5 , but "settled" for the ICON's due to availability...pleased to say the ICON's have exceeded my expectations and feel I did not sacrifice any performance going with ICON's in my
Mid-Runner set up....?

Those APG uppers in blue anodize ???

Sounds like a great setup. Do the APG tie rod ends allow more travel before binding compared to the stock ball joint on the stock rod end?

 

[Whiplash]

YES...The APG billet tie rod ends with the Heim steering joint, FK bearing have a greater range of motion than the stock ball joint end... another plus is they hold their toe in alignment better after being properly adjusted.

EDIT: Yes the blue anodized UCA's with the blue King Coilovers would look great on your blue truck..
.I have the black anodized UCA's to better compliment my Rapid Red , black appearance package..

 

[Superdannyboy]

YES...The APG billet tie rod ends with the Heim steering joint, FK bearing have a greater range motion than the stock ball joint end...another plus is they hold their toe in alignment better after being properly adjusted.

I will definitely put heims on my rod ends when I redo the front end. I ate up the inside of 2 tires from the toe being way out. Those are now the 2 spares I keep in the bed lol.

 

[Whiplash]

Off topic but I thought this might be a good place to share....

On my recent trip to SoCal I met one of my son-in- laws offroad buddies from Parker, Az. He showed me some impressive phone videos of him jumping his 1972 3 door Suburban...

I would estimate 6' high launches. Said he was running a cantilevered rear and I beam front with King 4.0 all 4 corners with 40" tires.. 22" of travel...

He was very interested in the geometry of my Ranger independent front suspension. His next mod was going to be an IFS front suspension for the handling benefits of the consistent camber and caster angles through out the full range of travel....

 

[Superdannyboy]

Off topic but I thought this might be a good place to share....

On my recent trip to SoCal I met one of my son-in- laws offroad buddies from Parker, Az. He showed me some impressive phone videos of him jumping his 1972 3 door Suburban...

I would estimate 6' high launches. Said he was running a cantilevered rear and I beam front with King 4.0 all 4 corners with 40" tires.. 22" of travel...

He was very interested in the geometry of my Ranger independent front suspension. His next mod was going to be an IFS front suspension for the handling benefits of the consistent camber and caster angles through out the full range of travel....

I'm putting together a budget for a 2003 f150 and boy does this stuff add up tens of thousands real quick when you want to run 40's. Thinking of scaling back to 37's because a full rear end is like 8500 alone to push and beat on 40's.

 

[Rhino]

king, fox, ads are at the top for a reason... icon is cheap for a reason its a very poorly made shock they are known for leaks and blowing out easily.. ive seen it loads of times so good luck with icons... after all the issues ive seen with em the only place they belong to me is in the trash..

 

[Superdannyboy]

king, fox, ads are at the top for a reason... icon is cheap for a reason its a very poorly made shock they are known for leaks and blowing out easily.. ive seen it loads of times so good luck with icons... after all the issues ive seen with em the only place they belong to me is in the trash..

Icon was the most expensive for the OEM replacements when I bought mine. I've been lucky so far, I've had a lot of fun with mine. I also heard customer service was trash but when I called the few times they always answered my questions and offered to tune my shocks for free. I've talked to Scott from YouTube and Adrian the behind the scenes shock wizard. I like their manufacturing from what I see on YouTube and they've held up. I do drive within the limits of my truck but man do I want to push those more so I've got some projects going on but I'll go with king for those. I think out of all the top shock manufacturers, fox has the pockets for the most r&d and advanced manufacturing processes and quality control like a good CMM with good programmers that know how to program to correctly check dimensions, I've fixed hundreds of CMM programs that were reporting false good results.

 

[Rhino]

Icon was the most expensive for the OEM replacements when I bought mine. I've been lucky so far, I've had a lot of fun with mine. I also heard customer service was trash but when I called the few times they always answered my questions and offered to tune my shocks for free. I've talked to Scott from YouTube and Adrian the behind the scenes shock wizard. I like their manufacturing from what I see on YouTube and they've held up. I do drive within the limits of my truck but man do I want to push those more so I've got some projects going on but I'll go with king for those. I think out of all the top shock manufacturers, fox has the pockets for the most r&d and advanced manufacturing processes and quality control like a good CMM with good programmers that know how to program to correctly check dimensions, I've fixed hundreds of CMM programs that were reporting false good results.

I’ll be honest that blows… if they cost more then fox, king or ads because they do not compare or hold up to them.. it’s good you have been lucky and haven’t had a blow out but do be prepared for it to happen I know a lot of people that had icon on their truck/Jeep and all of them have replaced them and wish they never bought them… ya most company’s costumer service now days sucks fox was okay when I got my exit travel for my tacoma but it still took 4.5 months for them to show up… pushing your truck isn’t the problem here now it for sure if fun because well I did that with my tacoma and beat the ever living piss out of it and followed people I shouldn’t have and went on trails I shouldn’t have but oh well the problem is icon just doesn’t hold up sadly if they hold up for you well then you are rare because I can tell you on the Toyota side of things everyone stays far away from icon unless they are knew and see the price and go wooow that’s a good deal for all this! When in reality you will Be replacing them within a year… and I agree fox has honestly the best pedigree for performance shocks because of how long they have been around but they have had issues with the 2.0 rear shocks just two years ago where the shaft would snap off but that was the 2.0s and you really are not meant to push those lol

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